Curse

Aldric · Feb 25, 2008, 09:21 AM // 09:21

Inscription and Green hate ftw.

Inscriptions were a fantastic addition to GW . You could completely design a perfect weapon for your build for very little cash. I have dozens of bows on my ranger built from gold/blue/purple items which are perfect for each and every build I want to run.

The green devaluation is fantastic , I can usually get a perfect stated item for virtually nothing. For myself I will take any green that has the perfect stats and a skin I like , for hero's perfect stats will do.

As for "Fellblades, Stormbows, Mursaat Bows, Magmas Shields, Zodiac weapons, and Sephis Axes being the stuff to have" the stuff to have for me was always the skins I liked . Other people perception of good had no bearing on my choice of weapon skins. I would rather have "cheap" greens than be a sheep tbh

cthulhu reborn · Feb 25, 2008, 10:07 AM // 10:07

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Originally Posted by bam23

I wouldn't know, but I never had to pay a cent.

Which is why he asked if you pay taxes. The game was made/paid for by the US military and they get that money from taxes. So all tax payers in the US contributed to this in that sense.

JeniM · Feb 25, 2008, 10:38 AM // 10:38

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Originally Posted by cthulhu reborn

Which is why he asked if you pay taxes. The game was made/paid for by the US military and they get that money from taxes. So all tax payers in the US contributed to this in that sense.

Glad I live in the UK where the government spends my taxes on more worth while things.

Oh wait, no they have no concept of how to run a country.

The GW economy is > UK's

Synles Chyld · Feb 25, 2008, 10:47 AM // 10:47

well i can honestly say before lootscaling i was able to make 30-100k a day just sittin in town an sellin my rares and mods.

now thats hard as heck to accomplish cuzz noone has the money they used to have.

get rid of that lootscaling shit and just continue banning bots the way ur doing and GW will rock again, there is no reason to punish us average ppl for for chinas bot issues

atm i have 270k, the most ive ever had was 830k and i use most of this money on my fiance not myself. if im ever to get my HoM decked out then GW needs to do somethin bout its lootscaling cuzz im not ebaying my gold damit

Syn

Alex the Great · Feb 25, 2008, 11:24 AM // 11:24

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Originally Posted by Synles Chyld

atm i have 270k, the most ive ever had was 830k and i use most of this money on my fiance not myself. if im ever to get my HoM decked out then GW needs to do somethin bout its lootscaling cuzz im not ebaying my gold damit

Syn

lol you think you have it bad? the most lump cash i have ever had was 100k!!!
i've spent over 200k just on armour for my characters (only 1 set of elite btw), and another 90-100k on weapons. Then loot scaling came along and i just got back to 85k, took me 3 weeks!

flyinhigh · Feb 25, 2008, 04:39 PM // 16:39

currently in bank 870k on mine, and 1.5 mil on my wifes account (6 storage chars) i made all that in like the last 4 months, here you go you want easy cash, do four full ursan runs through DOA, that equals 150k (depending on ecto price) and it takes you a TOTAL of 9 hours. 150k in 9 hours of play, OMFG that is easy. how is that broken?, or better yet open all the hidden treasures in the game thats like on average 50k plus golds. or here you go, 55 farm the undead in GOK, 2k in 7 minutes plus 100 dust and 200 bones, (average of course) thats like 7k in 7 minutes. or do you whiners just want a "Press to get 100k" button.

Dylananimus · Feb 25, 2008, 05:08 PM // 17:08

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Originally Posted by Alex the Great

lol you think you have it bad? the most lump cash i have ever had was 100k!!!
i've spent over 200k just on armour for my characters (only 1 set of elite btw), and another 90-100k on weapons. Then loot scaling came along and i just got back to 85k, took me 3 weeks!

You need some new farming spots

fanatic 's faith · Feb 25, 2008, 06:47 PM // 18:47

To be honest, im tired of GW, not only the economy, but the 3k hours i wasted in the last 2 years don't make me feel good at all. I'm sort of quitting gw, this being one of the many reasons, going to find something new to do... like i'd really like to learn drawing manga etc. Sorry for not responding much. Tbh... idc anymore. GW ruinned my life, too bad im so easily addicted to something.

romeus petrus · Feb 25, 2008, 07:56 PM // 19:56

Without comparing to any other MMO, it is a safe conclusion to say that the GW economy is in the worst shape it's ever been, but that's expected. the game has almost been out for 3 years. Like everythig else, GW is not ageless.

Fril Estelin · Feb 25, 2008, 09:09 PM // 21:09

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Originally Posted by fanatic 's faith

GW ruinned my life, too bad im so easily addicted to something.

Feel sorry for you. I think I've rarely been disappointed by GW because I didn't set my expectation too high (I think it's critical if you want to appreciate life, and GW's economy) and had no addiction.

Take a break, 2 or 3 months without playing, then come back to the game.

GL with life.

quickmonty · Feb 25, 2008, 09:15 PM // 21:15

Economy? I thought I was playing a game.

Monopoly has a great economy

1 up and 2 down · Feb 25, 2008, 09:57 PM // 21:57

The economy before loot scaling was crap. This was partial caused by merchants in the European and American districts not being synced and also because of the rare material trade reset. Because of this and bots every thing was inflated.

Now that loot scaling has been introduced, the economy is getting fixed, things aren't extremely inflated anymore. As others have mentioned pretty much everyone on Guru is richer than the average GW player. And now that the economy is finally getting better everyone here is complaining because they can't make their big bucks and others can have the nice stuff they have.

Face it, the current economy in GW is not bad, it's finally good now. If you can't accept that because others can finally get what you have, than thats your problem.

Magikarp · Feb 25, 2008, 10:05 PM // 22:05

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Originally Posted by Terraban

Huh?

You play a game to have fun, that is why you buy it.
You do not buy a game to do tedious work that you do not like.

Changing a game into work is stupid. Almost as bad as your analogies. Seriously dude, they are BAD.

its funny to see someone think that when they buy a game, they should get the best weapon, best armor, best skills, without even trying. this game has minimal "grind", and NONE of the so-called grind is even needed. its not my fault you can't understand elementary analogies...

CyberNigma · Feb 25, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13

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Originally Posted by {IceFire}

Do you pay taxes?

Actually, yes I do.. In fact, my taxes, plus some of yours pay my salary :-) I work in an air conditioned room with computers nowhere near as hard (the work comes easy to people with the knack for it) as when I worked outdoors in prior jobs..people are rewarded more for working smart than just working hard. So, since my salary is paid ultimately through taxes, AND since I make much much more than the taxes I pay (obviously), I in essence don't pay for America's Army, assuming my taxes go back into my paycheck.. :-)

I used to be in the military as well and paid part of my own salary through taxes.

so.. thank you for America's Army...

besides there's a difference between direct payment and indirect payment that you never see in the first place.

Zeff Nut · Feb 25, 2008, 10:23 PM // 22:23

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Originally Posted by Terraban

How a game could require less skill than GW is beyond me.

You've obviously never played Pong

Angelic Upstart · Feb 25, 2008, 10:44 PM // 22:44

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Originally Posted by JeniM

Glad I live in the UK where the government spends my taxes on more worth while things.

Oh wait, no they have no concept of how to run a country.

The GW economy is > UK's

LMAO that is so true.....

Terraban · Feb 26, 2008, 05:04 AM // 05:04

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Originally Posted by Zeff Nut

You've obviously never played Pong

Pong requires infinitely more skill than Guild Wars.

Actually, I would even go as far as saying Pong requires more skill than a lot of games...

Terraban · Feb 26, 2008, 05:07 AM // 05:07

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Originally Posted by Magikarp

its funny to see someone think that when they buy a game, they should get the best weapon, best armor, best skills, without even trying. this game has minimal "grind", and NONE of the so-called grind is even needed. its not my fault you can't understand elementary analogies...

Elementary analogies?

A football player training to be better has nothing to do with what I am talking about.

A football player trains to be better, so he makes more money, that IS HIS JOB. Please explain how his JOB is the same as a GAME that you buy to play for fun.

What would be a better analogy is this:

You buy tickets to a football game, but stand outside of the stadium and hand out free hotdogs to everyone who passes by. What do you get out of this? Someone says "Nice outfit" when they are leaving the game.

That my friend, is Guild Wars.

As for your stealing a car analogy, that is just so wtf I have nothing to say about it. What does stealing a car have to do with working in something that you bought for fun?

I'm not saying I want all the best stuff handed to me when I start playing the game, but telling people to "work" for it is stupid. People don't buy games to "work", people buy games for fun.

Honestly though, I don't see how that would hurt you? If a new player started right this moment, and got FoW armor and Tormented stuff, how would that hurt you? Would it make your e-peen go limp? I just don't see what you get out of other people "working" for it. I don't see how it has any impact on your game at all.

maraxusofk · Feb 26, 2008, 06:15 AM // 06:15

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Originally Posted by Terraban

Elementary analogies?

A football player training to be better has nothing to do with what I am talking about.

A football player trains to be better, so he makes more money, that IS HIS JOB. Please explain how his JOB is the same as a GAME that you buy to play for fun.

What would be a better analogy is this:

You buy tickets to a football game, but stand outside of the stadium and hand out free hotdogs to everyone who passes by. What do you get out of this? Someone says "Nice outfit" when they are leaving the game.

That my friend, is Guild Wars.

As for your stealing a car analogy, that is just so wtf I have nothing to say about it. What does stealing a car have to do with working in something that you bought for fun?

I'm not saying I want all the best stuff handed to me when I start playing the game, but telling people to "work" for it is stupid. People don't buy games to "work", people buy games for fun.

Honestly though, I don't see how that would hurt you? If a new player started right this moment, and got FoW armor and Tormented stuff, how would that hurt you? Would it make your e-peen go limp? I just don't see what you get out of other people "working" for it. I don't see how it has any impact on your game at all.

well in that case plz allow me to ask, if a new player DID start out the game wit fow armor and tormented weapons, wut would be the purpose of playing this game if there was no goal to work for? the story mode (cuz u know gw has epic nobel laureate writing). every game has SOME sort of end game goal in order to make the game last longer, be it an mmo or a singe player. the only games that dont are usually purely multiplayer or competitve although some can say that becoming high on the ladder is a goal unto itself. yes some may play games merely to have fun, but those gamers typically do not stay in a game long enough to care about the end game rewards (casual gamers) to actually try to get it. even if u gave them those items, they would be indifferent to them almost as soon as they recieved them.

Terraban · Feb 26, 2008, 06:31 AM // 06:31

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Originally Posted by maraxusofk

well in that case plz allow me to ask, if a new player DID start out the game wit fow armor and tormented weapons, wut would be the purpose of playing this game if there was no goal to work for? the story mode (cuz u know gw has epic nobel laureate writing). every game has SOME sort of end game goal in order to make the game last longer, be it an mmo or a singe player. the only games that dont are usually purely multiplayer or competitve although some can say that becoming high on the ladder is a goal unto itself. yes some may play games merely to have fun, but those gamers typically do not stay in a game long enough to care about the end game rewards (casual gamers) to actually try to get it. even if u gave them those items, they would be indifferent to them almost as soon as they recieved them.

What would be the purpose of playing this game? The gameplay of course, which is actually quite lacking in most of the game. You can somewhat cover up the lack of gameplay by playing all 10 different professions, through all the campaigns, but its all the same monotonous gameplay.

My question is...what is the purpose of "working" in a video game? So you can buy a fancy armor that nobody gives a damn about? Hell, work some overtime at an actual job, and get something that is actually worth your labor. "Working", as in doing something tedious and repetitive, in a video game is completely destroying what a video game is made for. A video game is made for entertainment. I don't know about you, but where I come from, something tedious and repetitive is NOT entertainment. Sure, goals are nice, but virtual material goals are not. Fun gameplay is what matters, not how many months of "work" it takes to get the +1337 E-Peen armor.

If you have to "work" for long hours in a video game, then isn't something wrong?

Goals like..."I want to be able to finish the game within a day" are good goals. Goals that require actual gameplay to achieve are fantastic.

Goals like..."I want to have super leet +5 e-peen armor" are bad goals. It requires very little actual gameplay but lots and lots of "work". This is when a game becomes a Work Simulator. If you are in that much need of an ego boost, get a second job and buy a fancy car. It goes a lot further for the ego than a set of FoW armor.

Edit: Actually, not sure about that last sentence...a lot of people with FoW armor think they were sent by "God" himself and that all the inferior ones should bow to them.